Re: Modernized 12-1 on Capitol Limited in early 1950s.
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Jim Mischke
Yes, it is by Underwood. Image B&O751, on the 9th album page.
On Monday, January 17, 2022, 11:24:16 PM MST, sailsman@... <sailsman@...> wrote:
Jim, This looks like many of the photos Nick Fry posted from the Barriger Library Collection several months ago. What is the source for the photo? Travers, 1-18-22
On Monday, January 17, 2022, 09:58:03 PM EST, Tom Gray via groups.io <tkg2902@...> wrote:
Same thing in reverse, except an extra window for Drawing Room A. The Pullman Conductors, on 19 and 20 anyway, usually took that for themselves. Tom Gray
On Monday, January 17, 2022, 05:00:26 PM PST, Steve Long <steve.long4@...> wrote:
Thank you for that photo, Jim! Looks like a couple of the single windows on the side shown got blanked during the modernization - I think over the toilets. I wonder what happened on the other side. Steve Long On 1/17/2022 7:21 PM, James Mischke
wrote:
Here is a photo of S-14e East
Norwood, a car from that series.
On Monday, January 17, 2022, 04:48:20 PM MST, Tom Gray
via groups.io <tkg2902@...> wrote:
Steve,
Im pretty sure all of the "East" 12 and
1 cars were refurbished - East Youngstown and East
Sparta on the Ambassador were to single windows on
the sections, carpeting and modernizing of the
"lounges" lavatories and toilets. I would assume
east Madisonville and Akron on the Cap and whatever
was on the National or Shennendoah as well. Sorry no
pics.
Tom Gray
On Monday, January 17, 2022, 02:57:46 PM PST,
Steve Long <steve.long4@...>
wrote:
From what I have read in old train
schedules and books, the Capitol
Limited continued to carry a
modernized 12-1 sleeper in its consist in
the early 1950s, even after adding
the 16-4 sleepers. One source said
at least one of them was named
"East Akron".
But, I am not finding much in the
way of pictures of B&O modernized 12-1
sleepers. I am expecting something
with thermopane windows and an
arched roof, probably sloped down
to match light weight passenger cars
at its ends. But, I am thinking
that the paired windows were probably
combined into single panes with
rounded corners. And, possibly the
window arrangement was somewhat
modified from the clerestory roofed
versions. That seems to be the
style that I see in modernized 10-2-1s
and 8-whatevers.
So, does anybody have pictures of
an early 1950s version modernized 12-1
that was used on B&O premier
trains? The only picture I have found of a
12-1 of that era ("Unionville") was
specifically said to have not been
used on the premier trains, and
seems to have simply been given
thermopane windows and a "turtle"
roof that was rounded down completely
at the ends.
Pictures of both sides would be
nice, but I will appreciate anything I
can get.
Steve Long
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